Are you on medication to lower blood pressure? Or are you caring for an older person with hypertension, also known as high blood pressure?
If so, you are probably wondering just what is the right blood pressure (BP) for older adults.
This is a good question, given that guidelines on blood pressure have changed, especially due to the results of the landmark Systolic Blood Pressure Intervention Trial (abbreviated as “SPRINT”).
The SPRINT study first made headlines in part because the findings seemed to contradict expert hypertension guidelines released in December 2013, which for the first time had proposed a higher goal BP ( a systolic BP of less than 150mm mercury) for most adults aged 60 or older.
In particular, SPRINT randomly assigned participants — all of whom were aged 50 or older, and were at high risk for cardiovascular events — to have their systolic blood pressure (that’s the top number) treated to a goal of either 140, or 120. Because the study found that people randomized to a goal of 120 were experiencing better health outcomes, the study was ended early.
For those of us who specialize in optimizing the health of older adults, this was obviously an important research development that could change our medical recommendations for certain older adults.
But what about for you, or for your older relative? Do the SPRINT results mean you should talk to the doctor about changing your BP medications?
Maybe yes, but quite possibly no. In this article, I’ll help you better understand the SPRINT study and results, as well as the side-effects and special considerations for older adults at risk for falls. This way, you’ll better understand how SPRINT’s findings might inform the BP goals that you and your doctors choose to pursue.
Here’s what this post will cover:
- What is currently considered “normal” blood pressure for older adults in their 60s, 70s, 80s
- What the latest blood pressure guidelines recommend
- What to know about the landmark SPRINT blood pressure in older adults trial, including who was included and excluded, and what type of BP medications were used most often
- What the actual likelihood of benefits and harms was within SPRINT, and what you might expect if you are similar to the SPRINT participants
- Why you probably need to make a change in how your blood pressure is measured before considering a SPRINT-style systolic BP goal of 120
- My own approach and how to avoid over-treatment of high blood pressure
What is considered normal blood pressure for older adults?
Blood pressure is usually recorded as the systolic blood pressure over the diastolic blood pressure. These are measured in millimeters of mercury (“mm Hg”). The systolic measurement (the “top number”) is usually much more important, when it comes to stroke risk and more practical medical considerations. (For more on the basic terminology of blood pressure, see this article.)
As of 2017, the American College of Cardiology and the American Heart Association (ACC/AHA) are defining normal blood pressure and high blood pressure using the same ranges for all adults, regardless of age or gender.
Here is the definition of normal blood pressure (and hypertension) per the ACC/AHA:
BP Category | Systolic BP | Diastolic BP | |
---|---|---|---|
Normal | <120 mm Hg | and | <80 mm Hg |
Elevated | 120–129 mm Hg | and | <80 mm Hg |
Hypertension | |||
Stage 1 | 130–139 mm Hg | or | 80–89 mm Hg |
Stage 2 | ≥140 mm Hg | or | ≥90 mm Hg |
In short, if you are wondering what is “normal” blood pressure by age: whether a person is in their 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s, normal blood pressure is considered to be a BP less than 120/80.
Furthermore, the definition of normal blood pressure does not vary between men and women.
Do geriatricians define normal blood pressure differently?
The American Geriatrics Society has not attempted to define normal blood pressure in older adults.
That said, here is the approach that most geriatricians — including myself — take when it comes to blood pressure:
- We first focus on helping an older adult get their systolic blood pressure down to the 140-150mm Hg range.
- After we reach a BP in the 140s, we consider more intensive treatment if it seems feasible and if the older person is not experiencing worrisome side-effects from blood pressure medication.
- We are very alert to the possibility of blood pressure being too low; some older adults feel weak or dizzy when they stand up, especially if their sitting systolic blood pressure is below 120.
For more on how we approach blood pressure treatment, see this article: 6 Steps to Better High Blood Pressure Treatment for Older Adults.
I also recommend learning more about the landmark SPRINT blood pressure trial, which I explain later in this article.
Is there such a thing as low blood pressure?
Yes, this is called hypotension.
Interestingly, the ACC/AHA do not define a lower limit for normal blood pressure. Instead, hypotension is often defined as blood pressure being “lower than expected.”
Generally, a reading of less than 90/60 mm Hg is considered hypotension.
Older adults are also prone to experience something called orthostatic hypotension, which means experiencing a decline >20 mm Hg in systolic BP or >10 mm Hg in diastolic BP, within a few minutes of standing up.
Because orthostatic hypotension can be associated with falls or with passing out, checking BP sitting and standing is one of the things geriatricians do after a fall. (Learn more things to do after a fall here: 8 Things to Have the Doctor Check After an Aging Person Falls.)
What do the newest blood pressure treatment guidelines recommend?
In the US, the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association (ACC/AHA) guidelines are very prominent. They were last updated in 2017.
For older adults, the ACC/AHA guidelines say:
“Treatment of hypertension with a systolic BP treatment goal of less than 130 mm Hg is recommended for noninstitutionalized ambulatory community-dwelling adults (≥65 years of age) with an average SBP of 130 mm Hg or higher.”
They also say: “For older adults (≥65 years of age) with hypertension and a high burden of comorbidity and limited life expectancy, clinical judgment, patient preference, and a team-based approach to assess risk/benefit is reasonable for decisions regarding intensity of BP lowering and choice of antihypertensive drugs.”
In other words:
- Older adults (who are not in nursing homes) aged 65+ should be treated for high blood pressure if their average systolic BP is higher than 130 mm Hg. The goal should be to get them below 130 mm Hg.
- In those older adults who are chronically ill and may only have a few years left to live, the goal of getting BP below 130 should be reconsidered.
However, in 2017 the American College of Physicians and American Academy of Family Practice issued joint hypertension guidelines endorsing a somewhat higher BP treatment goal for most older adults. In particular, they recommended that:
- Older adults aged 60+ with systolic BP higher than 150mm Hg be treated to get BP below 150.
- Consider further treating older adults at high cardiovascular risk to get to a systolic BP below 140.
- Treatment goals should be based on a periodic discussion of the benefits and harms of specific blood pressure targets
The American Academy of Family Practice subsequently issued an updated guideline in December of 2022, which concluded: “The AAFP recommends primary care clinicians treat adults with hypertension to a standard blood pressure target (less than 140/90 mm Hg)…AAFP also recommends primary care clinicians consider treating adults with hypertension to a lower blood pressure target (less than 135/85 mm Hg) to reduce risk of myocardial infarction.” (This particular guideline did not make a specific recommendation for older adults.)
What to know about the SPRINT trial
Who was — and wasn’t — studied in the SPRINT blood pressure trial
The current blood pressure treatment guidelines for older adults are very related to the SPRINT trial results. So it can useful to understand this landmark study.
In particular: do the study results apply to you or your older relative? This is one of the two most important questions to ask yourself when you hear exciting news about clinical research. (The other question to ask is “What’s the “number needed-to-treat,” which corresponds to your odds of actually benefiting; more on that below.)
Why? Because a well-done medical study tells us what health outcomes happened when we applied a certain intervention to a certain group of people. If you aren’t like the people who were studied, then there’s a higher chance you won’t experience the benefits that study participants did.
So who was in SPRINT? Here are the criteria the researchers used to define the study group, and enroll participants.
What the SPRINT participants were like:
- Aged 50 or older, with systolic blood pressure of 130-180mm mercury, and
- At increased risk for cardiovascular disease, which was defined by meeting one of the following conditions:
- Aged 75 or older. Yep, that in of itself puts people at risk.
- A 10-year risk of cardiovascular disease of 15% or greater on the basis of the Framingham risk score. You can check your own Framingham risk score here; you’ll need to know your total cholesterol, HDL cholesterol, and systolic blood pressure.
- Chronic kidney disease, defined by an estimated glomerular filtration rate (eGFR) of 20-60.
- Clinical or subclinical cardiovascular disease other than stroke. This means things like a history of heart attack, bypass surgery, peripheral artery disease, carotid artery stenting or surgery, or any testing considered “positive” for cardiovascular disease. For a full list of criteria, see the published study’s supplemental materials here.
It’s equally important to consider who was excluded from SPRINT. You may have already heard that SPRINT didn’t cover people with diabetes or stroke, but the exclusion list is much longer than that. (See the study appendix for the full detailed list.)
What the SPRINT participants were not like: Older persons with any of the following diagnoses, conditions, or circumstances were not eligible for the study:
- Diabetes
- Past stroke
- Clinical diagnosis of dementia, and/or being on dementia medication
- People residing in a nursing home. (Assisted living was ok.)
- Substance abuse (active or within the past 12 months)
- Symptomatic heart failure within the past 6 months or left ventricular ejection fraction (by any method) < 35%
- Polycystic kidney disease or eGFR < 20
- “Significant history of poor compliance with medications or attendance at clinic visits.”
As you can see, quite a lot of common diagnoses and circumstances were grounds for exclusion from the SPRINT study.
Ultimately, 9361 people were enrolled between November 2010 and March 2013. The average age was 68, and 28% of participants were aged 75 or older.
Surprisingly to me, the average systolic blood pressure at baseline was 140, which struck me as better BP control than average older adults. And only 34% of participants had a systolic blood pressure higher than 145 at the start of the study. (For comparison, the CDC reports that only about 1 in 4 adults with hypertension have their blood pressure under control.)
On average, at the start of the study, participants were taking two blood pressure medications.
What did the SPRINT intervention involve?
SPRINT participants were randomly assigned to be treated to a systolic BP goal of either 140, or 120.
Participants were seen once a month for the first three months, and then every 3 months after that.
To treat blood pressure, SPRINT provided all the major classes of BP medication for free, and also allowed clinicians to use other BP medications if they saw fit. Here are the main classes of medication used; I’ve organized them roughly by how commonly they were used (per table S2 of the appendix).
Blood Pressure Medications Used in SPRINT:
- Angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors and angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARBs), e.g. lisinopril, losartan
- Diuretics, e.g. chlorthalidone, hydrochlorothiazide, furosemide, spironolactone
- Calcium-channel blockers, e.g. diltiazem, amlodipine
- Beta-blockers (encouraged for those with coronary artery disease), e.g. metoprolol, atenolol
- Alpha-one blockers, e.g. doxazosin
- Direct vasodilators, e.g. hydralazine, minoxidil
- Alpha-two agonists, e.g. clonidine
Those last three classes of BP medication were used in 10% of people or less, which makes sense as none of them are recommended as first-line medication choices for hypertension, heart conditions, or kidney disease.
What about non-drug methods to manage high blood pressure?
In the scholarly publication, the SPRINT investigators say that “Lifestyle modification was encouraged as part of the management strategy,” but they don’t provide more specifics on what modifications were encouraged or how. So it’s hard to know how any non-drug methods — diet, exercise, salt reduction, stress reduction — might have factored into this study.
Benefits and Harms Observed in SPRINT
SPRINT randomly divided participants into an intensive-treatment group, which aimed for systolic BP less than 120, and a standard-treatment group, which aimed for systolic BP less than 140.
After one year, the average systolic BP among the intensive-treatment group was 121, compared to 136 among the standard-treatment group. The intensive group required an average of 2.8 medications to reach their lower BP goal; the standard group required an average of 1.8 medications.
The follow-up period averaged about three years.
Benefits of intensive BP treatment:
During follow-up, 1.65% per year of people in the intensive-treatment group and 2.19% per year of people in the standard-treatment experienced a significant cardiovascular “outcome event”: a heart attack, a stroke, acute decompensated heart failure, or death from cardiovascular causes.
The study authors calculated that “The numbers needed to treat to prevent a primary outcome event, death from any cause, and death from cardiovascular causes during the median 3.26 years of the trial were 61, 90, and 172, respectively.”
In other words, if you are like the study participants, and if you decide to switch from a systolic BP goal of 140 to a goal of 120, over a few years you’ll have:
- A 1 in 61 (1.6%) chance of avoiding a cardiovascular event
- A 1 in 90 chance (1.1%) chance of avoiding death from any cause
- A 1 in 172 chance (0.6%) chance of avoiding death from cardiovascular causes
(For more on the wonderfully useful statistic the Number Needed to Treat, see this informative NYT article and also the website www.thennt.com.)
Harms of Intensive BP Treatment
The SPRINT investigators were careful to track side-effects and complications. They found that serious adverse events occurred in 38.3% of the intensive-treatment group and in 37.1% of the standard-treatment group.
Adverse events included problems like hypotension (low blood pressure), syncope (passing out), electrolyte problems, declines in kidney function, and injurious falls. Most problems affected 1-7% of participants, with the exception of orthostatic hypotension — which means BP dropping with standing — which affected 16-18% of participants. (Standing BP was checked at baseline, 1, 6, and 12 months and yearly thereafter.)
Although many side-effects were a little more common in the intensively-treated group, injurious falls were equally common in both treatment groups, and affected 7.1% of participants.
This finding is actually consistent with what was reported in a 2014 study of serious falls (e.g. bone-breaking falls) in older people with high blood pressure. In that study, the researchers classified people as being on no BP medication, moderate-intensity BP treatment, or high-intensity BP treatment. Moderate- and high-intensity treatment was linked to a nearly equivalent risk of falling over three years (about 8.5%), whereas 7.1% of older adults on no BP medication had a bad fall.
How Blood Pressure Was Measured in SPRINT
Blood pressure was measured in a very careful way that is quite different from the way patients usually have BP measured by their doctors. Here’s what they did in SPRINT:
- Had people sit down and rest for five minutes before checking BP
- Checked BP three times consecutively, using an automated BP monitor (Omron 907)
- Used the average of those three BP measurements to assess the person’s BP and determine whether medications should be adjusted up or down.
Obviously, this is not the experience that most people have in the doctor’s office, and likely led to lower BP measurements than those taken under usual circumstances.
If you are similar to a SPRINT participant and are thinking of aiming for a lower BP goal, be sure to request that your BP is checked in a similar way. In truth, it’s a much sounder basis for changing a patient’s medications, but it’s not usual care at this time.
And remember: even if you’re like the SPRINT participants — and you might not be — aiming for the lower BP goal likely gives you a 0.5%-1.5% chance of avoiding a bad health outcome. (Whereas you’ll have a very high percent chance of having to take more medication every day.)
If you want to learn more about SPRINT:
SPRINT really was a fascinating research trial, and has led to several interesting sub-analyses. You can learn more about SPRINT results specifically in people over age 75 here: Important Blood Pressure Research: What to Know About SPRINT-Senior.
Do I usually try to get my older patients to “normal” blood pressure?
Given the results of SPRINT and the guidelines, you may be wondering how I personally approach treating high blood pressure in my patients.
In terms of my personal practice: I see a lot of older people who are worried about falls, and a well-done study published in 2014 found that blood pressure treatment was associated with serious — as in, bone breaking — falls. (Read my coverage of this study here.)
I also find that many of my patients are struggling to manage multiple medications, and are at risk for interactions from their medications. For instance, all the medications used in SPRINT have side-effects to watch out for, and many can interact with other medications or chronic diseases.
There is indeed good scientific evidence that for those older adults who have a systolic BP in the 160s or higher, getting them down to a systolic in the 140s does reduce the chance of strokes and other serious cardiovascular diseases. (See here and here.) So it’s certainly important to identify serious hypertension in older adults, and treat it if possible.
But given the relatively small absolute benefit of aiming for a systolic blood pressure of 120, I have found that for most of my patients, aiming for a systolic BP in the 140s is reasonable.
Now, you are likely still wondering what’s the right blood pressure goal for you or your older relative. I can’t tell you for sure for your particular situation. But here’s more information on why it’s worth being careful about over-treating high blood pressure, and why I agreed with the December 2013 guidelines recommending a systolic BP goal of 150 for most seniors.
Why Older Adults Should Watch Out for Over-Treatment of High Blood Pressure
In my experience, many older adults are taking more BP medication than they need, meaning they’ve reached a point at which the risks and burdens outweigh the benefits (compared with less aggressive treatment of high blood pressure).
This can cause falls or dizziness due to orthostatic hypotension, and one of the most common medication changes I implement as a geriatrician is the cutting back of blood pressure medications.
How can you know if you might be dealing with over-treatment of high blood pressure? Here are the steps I recommend:
1.Check the older person’s blood pressure, and know what his/her systolic BP is. The best way to do this is to use a high-quality BP machine, and to have the BP checked at the same time of day, for 3-7 days in a row. If possible, check twice a day instead of once a day. (For more on checking BP at home, see this post.)
- Since blood pressure is constantly changing a bit within the body, a series of measurements gives a more accurate idea of where a person’s BP usually is.
- Home-based BP checks have been shown to correlate better with a person’s true BP than occasional office-based BP checks.
- If there have been any falls, or if systolic BP is less than 120, consider checking BP both sitting and standing. If BP is dropping a lot when the person stands (which is a sign of orthostatic hypotension), you’ll want to ask the doctor to address this.
2. Plan to talk to the older person’s doctor about reviewing the blood pressure treatment plan. This is especially important if:
- Sitting systolic BP is less than 130mm Hg and you’re noticing a drop of 20 mm Hg or more when the older person stands.
- Sitting systolic BP is less than 120 mm Hg and you’ve been worried about falls.
- Sitting systolic BP is less than 110 mm Hg.
- Sitting systolic BP is often over 150 mm Hg (in which case, we might be dealing with under-treatment of hypertension).
For more on how to figure out blood pressure treatment for people in their 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s, see here: 6 Steps to Better High Blood Pressure Treatment for Older Adults.
[This article was first published in 2015. It has been regularly reviewed and updated, most recently in November 2023.]
DUKE SR. says
Thanks Dr. Leslie,
Re: my b.p. ZIGZAG as high as 199/ 98 as low as 110/ 66. Despite I’ve (41) diseases, I feel healthy.
Couple days ago i was discharged from ER having my 41st illness. I have been in the ER 20 times in 19 months, and two times hospital observation.
I took 17 different RX, 12 of them had severe reaction. My specialist said: appears your body is rejecting RX, And week ago I was taking off 2 RX one for blood pressure after I sent b.p. one week readings chart. Well, my b.p. is back to athletic reading 113/71 pulse 71 and as of today still have excellent b.p.
ALL DOCTORS, SPECIALISTS SAID: MY ILLNESSES IS A “GENE”. well, i looked back to my family and ancestors none had more than one to two illnesses… appears i collected all the illnesses in my tribe….
I have went thru 100s of lab tests including catherization, ultrasound and xrays, c.f. with dye and you name it.
I KNOW MY BODY AND HOW I FEEL 24/7
and my doctor visits are extended visit meaning 40 to 30 minutes. But, no doctor can diagnose any illness unless you document daily facts
So, do your homework it will help you to live much longer and possibly happier despite some doctors see it as anxiety and prescribe RX and you don’t needed.
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
Thank you for sharing your story. Sounds like you are a bit of a medical mystery, as you have had a lot of testing and the doctors are still unsure of what you have. This does happen to some people, it can be very frustrating to live through this. I hope the issues resolve soon, and that you find whatever answers are needed to stabilize your health.
Thomas Petrocik Sr says
I see a PA yearly and VA every six months. In recent years my BP started to go up, I was first put on Hydroclorthizide later Lisinopril 10mg. But my BP still not controlled as readings all over the place. Is their a particular practitioner that deals/has expertise in BP issues. I’ve yet to have explained to me just what is normal for me and what I can do to better control it, with exception to info I’ve found on line.
I’m five months shy of 73, six foot tall @ 200 lbs, more active than most half my age. Don’t use tobacco, moderate drinker (beer), have never used drugs other than legal OTCs. I might add since retiring, I’ve developed, “White Coat Syndrome” as my BP goes out the roof in the MD office. Thank you.
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
So, generally high BP can be managed by generalist clinicians. I am not sure just how “all over the place” your readings are, but BP is dynamic and it’s quite common for a single person to show fairly varied reasons, especially if they are not checking at the same time every day. For this reason, it’s helpful to record BP over several days at home.
Specialists are usually considered either if the generalist cannot control BP after using a combination of 2-3 medications at high doses, or if there’s reason to suspect something more complicated going on. Either a kidney specialist or a heart specialist could be consulted, depending on the circumstances.
I’m not sure it’s productive to ask a clinician what is normal for you. High BP is very common in older adults, and it’s generally considered a condition that should be treated, especially if the SBP is over 150. Your own BP readings will reveal what is common for you, and then your health provider can advise you as to what would be a suitable BP goal, what would be the pros/cons of intensifying your BP treatment, and how you might proceed.
Good luck!
Valerie NEVILLE says
My blood pressure reading is186 over 91 my pulse rate is 76 l have been having pain in my hands And my wrists and head ache but not all the time l am age 70 female I am taking bendruvluside the lowest dose and small dose of patasiem tablet but lm always tired do you think this as any thing todo with my blood pressure .
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
At age 70 — and really at any age — there are many things that can cause feeling tired. These include anemia, endocrine disorders, metabolic disturbances, sleep problems, issues with the heart and lungs, I could go on and on. So I would recommend talking to your health provider and asking for an evaluation.
High blood pressure, in of itself, does not usually cause fatigue or noticeable symptoms. BP medications can cause side-effects such as fatigue, but that is less common at low doses.
The BP you report is quite high; if it’s usually that high, I would recommend talking to your health provider about how you might control it better. We usually start by suggesting that older adults get their systolic BP (the first number) in the 140s, and then we decide whether it makes sense to aim for an even lower BP. Good luck!
Valerie NEVILLE says
Thankyou this was every helpful I will make an appointment with my doctor .
Adriaan Alberts From Aruba. says
My name Adriaan Albertsz . I’m 67 from the Island Aruba and have 1 stent on my heart. I’ m worry over my blood pressure diastolic that still below 70 and some times 60. What can I’m do Doctor to normalize my blood pressure that is was today 126/61 pulse 63. My question is . Is my blood pressure ok Doctor ?
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
Generally, a diastolic BP less than 80 is considered normal. A systolic BP of 126 is not particularly high or worrisome.
I would recommend you talk to your usual health providers about what your BP should be, and whether you need to be concerned about your recent readings. Good luck!
Murielle Charbonneau says
Hi!
Is there a significant difference in the blood pressure values between a man and a women aged over 65 years old? Also, is it normal for me to have a blood pressure ranging between 150 to 140 for my systolic pressure and between 90 to 80 for my diastolic pressure (I am a woman 65 years old)
Thank you !
Murielle
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
There is research ongoing into the differences when it comes to men and women for hypertension and BP control. For now, guidelines apply to both genders and we don’t generally change management based on the gender.
A systolic BP between 140-150 is not uncommon in women your age. It is also common for BP to vary somewhat, as it’s very dynamic and is often changing within the body, depending on one’s position, activity, and emotional state.
According to the 2017 American College of Cardiology guidelines, SBP>140 would be considered Stage 2 hypertension. If you are 65 and not frail or seriously ill, it would be reasonable to consider trying to treat your BP to bring it down somewhat.
I would recommend discussing what your goal BP should be with your doctor. You may want to discuss non-drug methods of addressing BP; these don’t always enable people to entirely avoid medication, but they are good for one’s health in many ways and can allow someone to manage BP with lower doses of medication.
I also offer suggestions in this article: 6 Steps to Better High Blood Pressure Treatment for Older Adults. Good luck!
Marisol says
Hi,
My mom is 70 yrs old. Her BP is usually below 108- 110/ 63-67 in the afternoon and in the morning 110-70 before taking the BP meds. Is it normal this range of BP for elder women?
She is being treated with Lorista (Losartan 50 mg) for now 3 years.
Thank you in advance!
M
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
Your mother’s BP is not uncommon in women her age, esp if they are on BP medication. The more important questions you may want to ask her doctors are:
– What should her goal BP be?
– Is there a good reason to treat her with BP medication to the point that her systolic BP (the top number) is so far below 120?
– Would there be a major downside to cutting back on her BP medications a bit?
As I explain in the article, in the SPRINT study the more intensive BP control arm aimed for SBP<120, the other group aimed for SBP<140. There was a benefit to aiming for the lower BP goal, but it was small in absolute terms.
I would recommend discussing further with your mother's health providers. If she has a preference to be on less medication when possible (which is often safer from a side-effect perspective, and can be cheaper as well), it may well be possible to cut back on her BP medications without putting her at substantial risk. Good luck!
Cedrick Ishimwe says
Hello Dr leslie ! I really appreciate your posts. I m hereby names Cedrick I. a student nurse in university of Rwanda. I wish to know more about high blood pressure in psychiatric women patient aged 70 years on Amitriptyline to treat major depressive disorder and propanolol treatment. Home BP Monitoring reveals systole between 130-140.
1. Can the signs of headache and dizziness she experiences be treated as hypertensive disorder or pscychoatric?
2. The palpitation sign she experiences, is it the positive sign for hypertension to be treated with such propanolol or other treatment drug group can be successful?
Thanks alot!!
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
So, in the United States it has become very rare to treat major depression with an older drug such as amitriptyline, because it has a lot of anticholinergic side-effects (not good for the brains of older adults) and there are many newer drugs that are better tolerated.
Propanolol would also be a very unusual choice here, to treat high blood pressure. Beta-blockers are now mainly recommended for people who have a history of myocardial infarction or heart failure; for primary hypertension, our guidelines now recommend using thiazide diuretics, calcium channel blockers, or ACE inhibitors.
Many things can cause headache and/or dizziness. A systolic BP of 130-140 is not very high, so I wouldn’t expect it to cause headache and I would look for other causes.
It is hard to say why she is experiencing palpitations, she really needs more evaluation to determine whether her feeling of palpitations corresponds to tachycardia or some other kind of arrhythmia, before you can determine what a suitable management plan would be. In the US propanolol is mainly used for essential tremor and sometimes as-needed to manage tachycardia related to public speaking, or similar circumscribed stressful events. Good luck !
Jane Bui says
It’s hard for me to change my dad’s thought on lowering his hypertension. He always refuses to do exercise and always take medication any time his BP gets high. Luckily he is reducing salt intake.
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
That must be frustrating for you, as I imagine you want him to have the best health possible.
If you haven’t already done so, you might want to try exploring what’s behind his refusal to exercise, and you might also ask more questions about how he sees his blood pressure problems. Sometimes doing a lot of listening helps us better understand how to help an older person with their health goals.
Marianne says
Dear Dr. Kernisan
I loved the perspective from a practicing doctor. Quick question, what is your take on using CoQ10 therapy for hypertension?
A 2007 meta-analysis by Professor FL Rosenfeldt and colleagues showed that CoQ10 treatment lowers both systolic (avg. decrease of 16.6 mm Hg) and diastolic (avg. decrease of 8.2 mm Hg) blood pressure. (Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17287847).
Seems like a very affordable supplementation with pharmaceutical-grade CoQ10 (without known side effects) rather than expensive medication might be worth a try? Also, it has shown to be good for atherosclerosis and overall cardiovascular mortality in clinical trials.
Curious about your take on this information, Dr. Kernisan.
Sincerely,
Marianne
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
I haven’t personally used coenzyme Q10 with patients. (I rarely recommend supplements, in large part because the production and quality is poorly regulated in the U.S.)
However, the evidence for coenzyme Q10 has been evaluated by the Cochrane group (they do well-respected reviews of the literature), see here:
Blood pressure lowering efficacy of coenzyme Q10 for primary hypertension.
Their conclusion is that there is “moderate-quality evidence that coenzyme Q10 does not have a clinically significant effect on blood pressure.”
The Mayo Clinic is another good place to learn about the evidence for supplements, and they say it’s mixed for hypertension but there is some evidence coenzyme q10 helps with congestive heart failure. Coenzyme Q10
If you are interested in trying this supplement to help lower blood pressure, I would recommend talking to your doctor to make sure there are no particular reasons it might be risky. (Seems it’s generally safe and well tolerated.) Then give it a try and be sure to carefully monitor your blood pressure while doing so, that way you’ll get a sense of whether it seems to be working or not. Most blood pressure medications create an effect within a few days at the most. Good luck!
ceci says
Interesting, especially the manner in which BP is measured by doctors. I had my BP measured with arm hanging down my side, while the Omron is pumping being interviewed to save time (the most common practice), when I was sick, on my arm where I had rotator cuff surgery and biceps tenodesis, in a ten-minute consultation because the doctor was running behind schedule. Always once only due to time constraints. I booked longer appointments but this seems to bore the doctors just to measure blood pressure and the same happened even during longer appointments. My Omron device at home has been consistently higher than measurements taken by doctors with a sphygmomanometer. Doctor standing looking down at the scale while taking measurement with sphygmomanometer. When BP was higher than 140/90 the device pumped up to 200/something which is very painful making me gasp. Every doctor so far has ignored this. I am 67, my blood chemistry is perfect, including weight and fitness. There ought to be a placard in every doctor’s clinic to remind doctors (and patients) on how to measure BP correctly. Once I was prescribed BP meds and when I checked the patient information on the net (our medications do not come with patient information anymore) there was the following advice: “To be prescribed with caution in patients over 65.” Do I trust doctors? No.
Leslie Kernisan, MD MPH says
Thank you for sharing your story. Yes, it can be tough to get a carefully and correctly checked BP reading at the doctor’s office.
Hard to say why your own Omron device consistently reads higher than the doctor’s office. Checking BP manually with a sphygmomanometer requires good positioning of the patient PLUS good technique in sufficiently inflating the cuff, slowing deflating the cuff, and carefully listening to the sounds. I think it’s not easy to be very accurate, especially when one is in a rush.
I think you are right to be proactive about double-checking your healthcare. Unfortunately, many doctors are rushed or distracted, in part because of the pressures that our dysfunctional healthcare system puts on them. And, it’s still very common for them to prescribe medications that should be used with caution in people aged 60 or older.
I have more information on getting better care here: 4 Steps to Getting Better Medical Advice from Doctors
So keep being involved, as you are doing. Sometimes switching to a clinic designed to care for older adults can help. You may also want to bring your home BP monitor to the doctor and see if it can be compared to one of the Omron machines in the clinic. Good luck!
ceci says
Thank you so much for your reply, Dr Kernisan, as well as the link!